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  1. Haha, that’s hilarious!

    Posted by Susan Walsh | December 2, 2010, 7:06 pm
  2. What are mere “facts” in the face of “faith”?

    Posted by Alex Hardman | December 3, 2010, 8:22 am
  3. Alex Hardman, on Dec 3, 2010 at 8:22 am said:
    What are mere “facts” in the face of “faith”?

    PG says:
    A persons current Circumstances. They are a fact, but with faith, circumstances can be changed and no longer a fact.

    Posted by PG | December 4, 2010, 12:23 pm
  4. @PG, that makes no sense. Faith wouldn’t change anything, actions would.

    Next time you are hungry, have faith (but take no actions) and see if it changes. I doubt we’ll be hearing from you again if you do, and we sure won’t here how faith fed you if you don’t.

    Posted by Alex Hardman | December 4, 2010, 2:31 pm
  5. So sad — so very, very sad.

    Posted by ChristopherTK | December 4, 2010, 3:46 pm
  6. Alex,

    Before there is action, there is a decision to take action. This decision making thought process incorporates a belief system of faith.

    Alex, please provide me one example of an action you took that didnt first require a decision with an element of faith…

    Posted by PG | December 4, 2010, 4:07 pm
  7. Thinking is an action (chemical reaction in the brain). Faith is not an action, but an attribute, like hair color. By the time you’ve “thought” of a plan, you’ve already acted, ergo I’m right.

    Posted by Alex Hardman | December 4, 2010, 6:00 pm
  8. Sorry Alex,
    Im not swallowing your philosophical rhetoric as fact. Even the most militant atheist scientists make such statements of “mind is just chemical reactions” with trepidation.

    Why?

    Because If thoughts are reduced to simple chemical reactions, then taken to its logical conclusion, in the end there is no feeling left. There is no love, no evil, no pain, no compassion, no comfort, no beauty. All that would be left is chemical reactions, light waves and vibrating molecules.

    But there is a deeper problem. If the mind is just a property created by the brain, then when you make a decision who or what does the deciding? If thought is a mere effect of chemical reactions in the brain, then your conscious act of deciding is not a free will act of your own but simply physical reactions upon physical reaction. That means you would have no will at all..

    Thankfully, the vast majority of people know better and reject your obsolete freudisms.

    Posted by PG | December 4, 2010, 7:16 pm
  9. Because If thoughts are reduced to simple chemical reactions, then taken to its logical conclusion, in the end there is no feeling left. There is no love, no evil, no pain, no compassion, no comfort, no beauty. All that would be left is chemical reactions, light waves and vibrating molecules.

    Welcome to reality. I wouldn’t reduce the universe to those three things, but yes, we’re just chemical reactions.

    There’s nothing wrong with that. You’re not any different than the rest of the universe, so stop feeling so “special”.

    Posted by Alex Hardman | December 5, 2010, 1:08 am
  10. Alex,

    Basically you believe in Frosty The Snowman,. You believe that we somehow came to life from a watery source and with time we gained consciousness just like Frosty did.

    Somehow that doesent seem to be intillectually satisfying to me, so again, I reject your ideology…

    Posted by PG | December 5, 2010, 1:38 am
  11. BTW Alex, Science has yet to discover the origin of life to be able to make the bold statement as you do that our thoughts are simply chemical reactions. Perhaps you should curtail your exuberance until a discovery is made…

    Posted by PG | December 5, 2010, 1:46 am
  12. What does the origin of life have to do with science’s ability to map the chemical reactions in the brain that leads to our thoughts?

    p.s. For something to be intellectually satisfying you would need to be intellectual, so…

    Posted by Alex Hardman | December 5, 2010, 10:31 am
  13. Alex,

    Dont be gullable.
    There is a major distinction between mapping the brain and mapping the mind. Just because science can possibly map the brain doesent mean they mapped the mind!

    Perhaps the best metaphor I read is that the scientists can begin to map a film being shown on the screen by observing the projector, the bright shining light, the celuloid film. But that doesent describe the film itself being shown on the screen.
    Rather, the movie is the image that is being projected on the screen, and it’s even more than just an image. There is a story, dialogue, characterization, and action. There are all these other things that go beyond just the physical representation. In fact Science has not come close to explaining how could those chemical reactions ever possibly represent something greater than itself!

    The truth is, the scientists never stated that they mapped the actual thoughts, just the physical movements.

    The sad part is the gullible with a priori belief in naturalism never question science and simply extrapolate what they want from the findings.

    Posted by PG | December 5, 2010, 12:12 pm
  14. Alex, Regarding origin of life…,

    Naturalists such as yourself simply assume life arose from only natural chemical processes even though science has yet to make .that discovery. From this assumption, Naturalists then make unsubstanciated claims as fact, that the mind is simply chemical processes.

    Thats not science…, thats religion…

    Posted by PG | December 5, 2010, 1:47 pm

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